For debt relief, tax relief and MCA companies with a sales floor

Stop renting your pipeline. Own it.

Most debt companies get every client from someone else: lead vendors, transfer shops, mail houses. We build your own client acquisition pipeline: live transfers and inbound calls from people with $20K+ in debt, tuned to clients who enroll and stick. Profitable leads, or you don't pay.

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3 to 5 partners at a time. Takes about 60 seconds.

10 → 100+Sales reps for one of our debt relief clients, on cold traffic
$23.0MIn fees earned for that client, on $6.69M in ad spend over 28 months
$10.31MCollected on $1.25M in ads in my own high-ticket business (2024)

Sound familiar?

Your closers can sell. The pipeline just isn't yours.

  • Your vendor changes the deal.Prices go up or volume gets cut, and your floor feels it the same week.
  • The leads aren't really yours.They got sold to other shops too, so your closer is racing everyone else to the phone.
  • Enrollments don't stick.The client signs, then cancels by day 60. The fee never gets earned and the commission gets recapped.
  • Closers sit and wait.Hours between calls, then your best reps leave for the shop with better lead flow.
  • Mail keeps getting pricier.Postage went up in July 2025 and again in July 2026, and one bad storm can sink a whole drop.
  • None of that is a closer problem. It's a pipeline problem.

Why it keeps happening

When you rent a pipeline, someone else keeps the learning.

When a vendor runs the ads, their account does all the learning: which creative works, who responds, who's worth calling. You get the leads. They keep the asset, and next month you pay again.

And when debt companies run their own ads, the ads usually learn from form fills. The platform does exactly what it's told. It finds people who fill out forms, not people who qualify, enroll and stay.

Ad platforms don't know what a good client is. They only know what you tell them.

How we fix it

The Lead-to-Enrollment Loop

The Lead-to-Enrollment Loop turns cold traffic into enrolled clients by teaching the algorithm who enrolls, not who fills out forms. It all runs in your accounts.

  1. 01

    Call out the right person

    Ads speak to the exact situation your program serves, like "$20K+ in card debt", "owe the IRS $10K+" or "2+ advances on daily debits". They frame it honestly as a program, not a loan, so loan shoppers don't flood your floor.

  2. 02

    Qualify before a human picks up

    The form and follow-up check the hard stuff in minutes: debt amount, state, payment frequency, sued or not. Phone numbers get verified.

  3. 03

    Transfer them live

    Qualified prospects get transferred live to your closers or call your floor directly, while they're still ready to talk.

  4. 04

    Close the loop

    Every qualified, transferred and enrolled client gets fed back to the ad platforms, so they stop hunting for form fillers and start finding people who enroll and stick.

  5. 05

    Mine the calls

    What your enrolled clients said, and why the others didn't sign, turns into new ads and sharper form questions every week.

Why this matters for debt and tax. Ad platforms put debt and tax relief ads in a special category that takes away age, ZIP code and lookalike targeting. The creative and the data you send back have to do the targeting. That's the whole point of the Lead-to-Enrollment Loop.

Proof

10 reps to 100+ on their own pipeline

One of our clients is a debt relief company. We built their pipeline on cold traffic and fed every lead with $20K+ in debt back into it, so the ads learned exactly who to look for.

Debt relief clientName kept private · 28 months
10 → 100+Sales reps on the lead flow
$23.0MIn fees earned
$6.69MIn ad spend, cold traffic
16,443Clients enrolled
3.4xReturn on ad spend overall, and 2x+ in all 28 reporting periods

By the end, the limit wasn't leads. It was how fast they could hire closers.

Fees are 9% of enrolled debt on still-active clients, before dialer and payroll costs.

My own high-ticket business2024 · ads sold prospects before the call
$1.25MIn ad spend
$10.31MCash collected
8.2xCash collected per ad dollar
244Client payments, mostly $35K to $70K

Cash collected before sales payroll and other costs, from bank and card statements.

The guarantee

Profitable leads, or you don't pay.

We put our fee on the line. If the leads we bring you aren't profitable within 90 days, you don't pay us.

What "profitable" means

The fees you earn from clients the pipeline enrolls, measured against your ad spend plus our fee.

Measured in your numbers

From your own CRM, agreed in writing before anything launches. Not a platform dashboard.

Your account, your asset

Ad spend runs through your own ad accounts, not ours. The data and the audiences stay yours either way.

17The age I ran my first paid ad. I'm 32 now.

Who you'd be working with

I'm Sam. It's me in your ad account.

I built and ran a high-ticket business with its own sales team, and I spent 28 months building the client acquisition system for a debt relief floor that grew from 10 reps to 100+.

There's no account manager and no junior media buyer. You work with me, backed by a small team I run myself. I only take 3 to 5 partners at a time so I can stay close to every account.

  • Running paid ads since 17
  • Built a high-ticket business with a sales team
  • Grew a debt relief floor from 10 to 100+ reps
  • 3 to 5 partners at a time

How it works

Apply, talk, then we build.

  1. STEP 1

    Apply

    About 60 seconds. A few questions about your company, your floor and how you get clients today.

  2. STEP 2

    Book a 30-minute call

    We look at where your enrollments come from, what they cost and what your own pipeline could look like. If it's a fit both ways, we show you exactly how we'd build it.

  3. STEP 3

    We build your pipeline

    Ads, qualification, live transfers and the data loop, all in your accounts. Then 90 days to prove the leads are profitable.

Is this for you?

We're picky on purpose.

This is for you if

  • You run a debt relief, debt consolidation, tax relief or MCA restructuring company
  • You have a sales floor with 3 or more closers
  • You already spend every month to get clients, through vendors, transfers, mail or ads
  • You own the company or make the marketing call

Skip it if

  • There's no one on your team to work the calls
  • You're outside debt, tax and MCA
  • You just want cheap leads
  • You want a big agency with account managers

Before you apply

Questions owners ask

Is this an agency?

No. You work with me directly, backed by a small team I run myself. No account managers, and only 3 to 5 partners at a time.

Who owns the ad account and the data?

You do. The ads run in your own ad accounts, on your own tracking. If we ever stop working together, everything stays with you.

What does "profitable leads or you don't pay" mean, exactly?

The fees you earn from clients the pipeline enrolls have to cover your ad spend plus our fee within 90 days. We agree on how it's measured, in writing, before anything launches. If they don't, we refund our fee. Your ad spend is paid from your own account either way.

Do I have to drop my lead vendors?

No. You don't have to cut anyone off on day one. Keep your vendors running while your own pipeline ramps up, then decide what to cut.

Can paid ads really work for debt and tax relief?

Yes, if it learns from the right signal. These ads run in a special category with limited targeting, so the ads and the outcomes you send back have to do the work. That's how one of our clients grew from 10 reps to 100+ on cold traffic.

Do you work with tax relief and MCA companies too?

Yes. Same system, built around your program minimums and the states you serve.

What do I need to apply?

About 60 seconds, plus a rough idea of your revenue, what you spend a month to get clients and how many closers you have.

Ready to own your pipeline?

We take 3 to 5 partners at a time, so we review every application ourselves.

Results shown are from one client and from my own business. Yours will depend on your program, your floor and your market. The 90-day guarantee covers our fee, under the written terms agreed before launch.